The Girl from Tomorrow (TV series)

[Fanat]

Hi everyone,

I'm sorry that I didn't took part in this conversation for many weeks. The thing is that I have been extremely busy all this time. I hope that soon I will be able to write some comments to the messages here.

Right now I'd like to draw your attention to quite an intriguing fact. IMDb, the largest TV/movie database in the world, considers The Girl from Tomorrow and Tomorrow's End two seasons of one series. Its IMDb ID is tt0098803, see https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098803/ and https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098803/episodes/.

Interestingly, Tomorrow's End was previously considered a separate series by IMDb. Wikipedia provides its ID tt0101107 and a link https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101107/. However, today this link is redirected to the page https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098803/ which covers both seasons.

In my opinion, it'd be more correct to consider The Girl from Tomorrow and Tomorrow's End two separate series, as it was done before.

IMDb guidelines say:

Here are some of the criteria to consider when trying to define whether a series should be listed as one or two titles: the length of time that has passed between the seasons, significant changes to the credits including production details, how the series is marketed when released and perceived by the public and if there were any changes to the primary title.

source: https://help.imdb.com/article/contribut ... RK7YY47CQB

I highlighted here the parts which, I think, confirm that The Girl from Tomorrow and Tomorrow's End are separate series.

I also draw your attention to the fact that some other series we are interested in are stored in the IMDb database separately:

• Spellbinder and Spellbinder: Land of the Dragon Lord;
• Escape from Jupiter and Return to Jupiter.

However, Mirror, Mirror and Mirror, Mirror II are considered two seasons of one series: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112073/. Wikipedia gives an outdated link https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0127386/ to the 2nd part but it redirects to https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112073/. I think it's better to consider Mirror, Mirror and Mirror, Mirror II separate series, just like The Girl from Tomorrow and Tomorrow's End.

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I'd like to contact IMDb and suggest them to split The Girl from Tomorrow and Tomorrow's End (and Mirror, Mirror and Mirror, Mirror II as well) into two separate series.

What is your opinion on that?

[Roja]

Hey Fanat,

No problem- I’ve been very busy too lately.

Personally I consider The Girl From Tomorrow and Tomorrow’s End two separate series. It is true that in the opening credits, it says “The Girl From Tomorrow-Part Two”- and it continues the story begun in The Girl From Tomorrow, but I see Tomorrow’s End as a SEQUEL, just like feature films have sequels within the same franchise.

Yes, it continues the story from where the first series left off, but it also begins a whole new adventure (saving the Southern Hemisphere from destruction) and has a very different vibe to TGFT- darker and more urgent as they face the impending crisis. The characters go through major changes (Alana being tougher, Jenny being out of her depth) and they have a new major villain, Draco, and a new ally, Nik. And personally, as I saw the first series aged 11 and the sequel aged 13, I felt like a LOT of time had passed between TGFT and TE!! It’s funny because now I’m older, I don’t see 2 years as a long time at all, but when you are growing up and going through puberty, you change a lot in 2 years, and you see lots of things very differently!!

I know that originally the writers wanted to tell the whole story in one series but 12 episodes wasn’t enough, and I was really glad that they split the story into two separate parts. It allowed each series to really go into detail and explore some subplots that wouldn’t have been possible if they’d had to squeeze the story into one series and rush through it.

Also I think it is ridiculous that Mirror Mirror and Mirror Mirror II are categorised as the same series, when Mirror Mirror II had a completely new cast and new stories completely unrelated to the story in the first series!!
The only thing they had in common was having the time portal mirror in them!

[Roja]

And as an afterthought, your post reminded me of the incredible EXCITEMENT I felt aged 13 when I first found out that there was going to be a SEQUEL to TGFT

Back then there was no internet, and when TGFT ended on a cliffhanger (Jenny and Silverthorn being injured and taken to the year 3000 to be healed) I was sad that it was the last episode and of course I hoped the story wouldn’t end there, but I had no way of finding out if there was going to be a new series. And I think that with such a long time passing, I must have lost hope… so it was a wonderful surprise when Tomorrow’s End started on CBBC 2 years later!!

[Yoshimura]

Hi everyone! My name is Andrew Yoshimura (née Campbell). I did the original The Girl From Tomorrow fan page back in 1998. The very first on the internet back then. In fact the Wikipedia entry is basically all my words stolen word for word (which didn't read well 26 years later honestly)
If you have any questions, just let me know

[Fanat]

Hi Andrew,

It's a pleasure for us to welcome you here! Authors of the fan websites (a) dedicated to our favourite TV series or movies and (b) created in the early Internet era are true fans.

Right now I have just a quick question. The thing is that I know 2 websites about TGFT:

1) https://www.angelfire.com/id/tomorrow/,

2) https://www.fortunecity.com/lavendar/tomatoes/99.

Could you please tell me which one is yours? Or both?

[Yoshimura]

Both are mine actually!! Ironically, the Fortunecity site was done as a prototype before the AngelFire one. I actually used that as part of my year 12 assessment and even had articles written about it in the school paper. I was very poor and couldn't afford actual hosting at the time so I did what I could with the limited MB available. The Fortunecity is now gone, but AngelFire is still up. With a webCounter even!

[Fanat]

Oh great! Thank you!

The Fortunecity is available via the Wayback Machine.

[Yoshimura]

It's good to know it still exists somewhere
I'm friend with Roja. She'll post some of my unique pictures here as well. When I figure out how, I'll also post some of my prop replicas. I also have the complete Tomorrow's End script

[Fanat]

Wow, it would be absolutely fantastic!

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[Roja]

Hello everyone, here are the photos that Andrew Yoshimura aka AC sent me!







I’m assuming that they were all taken by John Halfhide.

I am always ridiculously happy when I see stills photos from the show that I have never seen before!!

For me it’s like finding buried treasure, or a fossil on the beach. As a kid in the early 90s, I never knew these photos existed or that there were so many of them!!

Also when I saw these three photos, I felt that they perfectly visualised the difference in the vibe between the first and the second series. In the photos of Alana and Jenny in The Girl From Tomorrow, the girls look just like normal teenagers having fun, but the picture of Jenny, Alana and Nik from Tomorrow’s End has a much darker and more serious atmosphere. Especially the fear on Jenny’s face, and the difference in her disposition compared with the photos from the first series when she is in her home time zone and radiating her natural assertiveness and confidence.

I am absolutely not saying that the first series did not have scary moments or serious themes- there were plenty, for example when thousands of people died in the tidal wave (off screen) and when Alana was being held prisoner. But overall and generally, the first series had a much lighter vibe compared with the second. I also noticed that in the first series, light hearted, playful incidental music was used for a lot of Petey’s scenes, which was not used (and wouldn’t have been appropriate for the scenes) in Tomorrow’s End. They did however use superhero music for some of Petey’s scenes in both series though!