The Girl from Tomorrow (TV series)

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Re: The Girl from Tomorrow (TV series)

Post by Roja » 20 Nov 2024, 09:43

Yeah, I’m guessing it wouldn’t be simple (or at least, it wouldn’t be cheap) to arrange a visit to the mansion, but I can still dream about being there! 😄 (That lit up pier at night is lovely… 🥰 😁)

I think the mansion is available to hire for events, because I heard about it being used as a location for a reality TV show some years ago. But way out of my price range, obviously!! 😄

As for Silverthorn, I think his whole personality was dark and sinister, aside from his moments of humour and childish playfulness! 😄 And definitely the lighting was used to enhance this.

The most obvious instance of that, for me, was the scene in the Work Room when Alana asked him if he would let her go home in the Capsule if she cured his brain tumour. The room was mostly in complete darkness, aside from a lamp on the wall that only partially illuminated Silverthorn’s face in yellow light. And Silverthorn said “Of course I will, Alana… promise.”

Of course, by this point in the series, anyone watching knew full well that he was obviously lying, but Alana, who was desperate to go home, believed him. He then gave Alana a big fake smile which, in that lighting and combined with the ‘scary’ incidental music, made him look like the king of the underworld. 😈🤣

I also thought it was a great idea by the producer or director to have the final battle scene in the first series shot in the darkened garage, with everything lit up by the green light of the force field. It would have been a great scene if it had been shot in normal lighting too, but everything lit up in green made it feel more dramatic!! 😄

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Re: The Girl from Tomorrow (TV series)

Post by Fanat » 21 Nov 2024, 07:31

Yes, a visit to this mansion is obviously a must for TGFT fans but getting inside might be difficult. Roja, I hope you will visit Sydney and this mansion one day!

As for Silverthorn, you're right, his whole personality was dark indeed. I wasn't clear in saying that it was all about only one side of his personality.

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I noticed that the Moon shots used in the last episode of TE (when Alana and Jenny said good bye to each other from their respective times looking at the Moon) were also used in Spellbinder many times, even not only in our world!

This is Tomorrow's End:

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And this is Spellbinder:

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Re: The Girl from Tomorrow (TV series)

Post by Roja » 26 Nov 2024, 19:58

I didn’t realise the moons in TE and Spellbinder were from the same footage!! 😄 It’s easy to tell when you posted the screenshots together for comparison, but I guess I didn’t notice when watching the shows because the colours had been altered.

In TE, I did think it was an incredible coincidence that the moon was in exactly the same phase in both 1990 and 3000 at the moments Jenny and Alana were looking at it and saying goodbye. 😄 Because (as I’m sure you are aware as an astrophysicist, Fanat ) lunar cycles are shorter than calendar months, so full moons and new moons will fall on different days each year. Although sometimes they do fall on the same days they did several years ago. I was born on the Virgo New Moon of 1979, which fell on September 21st, and in 2025 the New Moon in Virgo will fall on my birthday again.

So there is a (very slim!) possibility that the full moon could have happened at the same time in 1990 as it did in the year 3000.

I remember also someone on a Canadian blog years ago made the point that if the Time Capsule could move through time but not space, then realistically the Capsule would end up floating in space, because the Earth would have moved, as it is orbiting the Sun so fast!! 😄 But in my head I explain away this problem by deciding that the Capsule was programmed to travel to whatever point ON THE EARTH the Capsule departed from, and the technology works in tune with the Earth’s gravity, or something. 😄

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Re: The Girl from Tomorrow (TV series)

Post by Jonathan » 29 Nov 2024, 15:28

Hi everyone, I just discovered this thread from a YouTube video and what a fantastic read it has been, full of amazing info. So thanks to members who have posted this.
It's great to see such devoted members so many years later.

In relation to the last post, that was always the biggest plot hole that stood out to me - in that that time capsule could only move through time and not space. This was the reason why they had to move the capsule into that office building in tomorrow's end. However if that was true, why was it that when Alana initially arrived from 3000 from the time laboratory, the capsule ended up in the tip, yet when she finally went back to 3000 at the end of the first season, the capsule left from the Kelly delhi but arrived back in the time lab! How? Also in the first or second episode, Jenny and oetey looked up at the sky and pointed out what was obviously supposed to be the time capsule. What was it doing flying through space if it cannot move through space?

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Re: The Girl from Tomorrow (TV series)

Post by Fanat » 29 Nov 2024, 15:48

Hi Jonathan, and welcome to our forum!
I just discovered this thread from a YouTube video
Could you please post here a link to this video? I am always interested when our forum is mentioned somewhere else. :)
It's great to see such devoted members so many years later.
Yes, it's great that such people have gathered here!

As for your remarks concerning capsule locations and flight, I agree that it's a plot hole. However, some other fans might explain that. ;)

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Re: The Girl from Tomorrow (TV series)

Post by Jonathan » 30 Nov 2024, 02:12

Thank you for the welcome! I can't remember what YouTube video I saw but I think it was about the making of the show.

It would be great to be able to explain that plot hole, but I think what happened was they needed to make it so they the capsule couldn't travel through space for a later plot in tomorrow's end.

As I live in Sydney, I also have visited some of the filming locations. Obviously Mrs Macquarie's chair where Alana and silverthorn went was obvious, but I also went to the Kelly delhi. To be honest it has changed so much around there and had I not known it was the place, I wouldnt have picked up on it. It just didn't feel like I was there although I was. But it's been great to learn of the other locations which I will visit at some stage.

About 14 years ago I also messaged Katharine on Facebook Messenger and she replied! She said she's off to law school so I guess a bit of a change in direction for her

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Re: The Girl from Tomorrow (TV series)

Post by Fanat » 30 Nov 2024, 05:35

I think it was about the making of the show
Yes, you're right! I found this comment here. It appeared to be written by Roja. Roja, thank you very much for promoting this thread!
other locations which I will visit at some stage
Great, good luck with that! Filming locations is something I'm somehow crazy about. :D If you find time to post your pictures of the filming locations here, it will be absolutely fantastic!
About 14 years ago I also messaged Katharine on Facebook Messenger and she replied!
Very nice! :good:

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Re: The Girl from Tomorrow (TV series)

Post by Roja » 02 Dec 2024, 22:44

A big WELCOME to the forum, Jonathan!! 🎉🎉🎉🎉

It’s great to have you here. I’m glad you’ve been enjoying reading all our posts!! 😁

I thought it was worth advertising this forum in the ‘Making TGFT’ comments section, as I was happy to see that so many fans had watched that video and made comments, so I hoped that some of them would want to come over here and enjoy discussing the show some more.

Your comment about Katharine Cullen jogged my memory about a quote from Katharine I’d read in a magazine, from an interview at the time when TGFT first came out in Australia, where she talked about not being sure what career path she wanted to take- whether to continue with acting or pursue a different career. Annoyingly, I can’t remember exactly what she said and I couldn’t find the magazine when I searched for it this weekend, but if I later find it again, I will photograph the article and post it here.

I did however manage to find a very short snippet of information about Katharine enjoying playing tennis- this was from a 1991 issue of Lookin (a British kids/teenage magazine)…

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I think you’re very lucky living in Sydney and I’m envious of your current weather! 😁 How fantastic it would be to be able to celebrate Christmas on the beach and go swimming in the sea!! ☀️🌊🦀🐚🐋

If you don’t mind answering these questions, what was your favourite thing about TGFT that made you a fan, and who was your favourite character? 🙂

I have thought some more about the time/space plot hole, and I have come up with a theory that could possibly explain it.

I think that the Time Capsule could move through time AND space in the first series, but not in the second series, and this was why:

We already know that in the first series, the Capsule was automatically programmed to return after a month long period, and that this programming could not be overridden during the duration of the Capsule’s stay in the other time zone. And the reason it couldn’t be overridden was that for the series 1 time journeys, the Capsule’s momentum was externally generated by the temporal generators in the Time Lab in the year 3000 (supplied with energy by an orbiting power station, which was not shown being used in series 2), and, at the end of the month long stay, the Capsule was pulled back through time and space to the Time Lab by that same energy, sort of like a yo-yo effect.

Silverthorn attempted to keep the Capsule frozen in 1990 with a force field created by generators he’d built himself, but after his plan failed, the Capsule was pulled back to the year 3000 by the original generators in the Time Lab.

Why did the scientists programme the Capsule this way for Tulista’s time journey?

Well, as a historian, Tulista would certainly have known about Globecorp, Globecops and the armed gangs that roamed 2500, and she knew there was a high risk that the Capsule would be discovered and captured if it stayed in the same place for a whole month!! So it made sense for the Capsule to be able to move through space so that Tulista would be able to move and conceal the Capsule while in 2500. Then, at the end of the month, Tulista could return to the year 3000 Time Lab regardless of the Capsule’s location in 2500.

But I guess due to the naïveté of the people in the year 3000, who had thoroughly studied the violent past history but were too far removed from the mindset of people in 2500 to be able to understand the thought patterns and reasoning of people from that time or earlier eras, it never occurred to the scientists to add a feature to lock the Capsule to prevent it being hijacked. 😄 They learned that lesson the hard way, and didn’t add that feature until series 2.

It wasn’t revealed exactly how Silverthorn captured Tulista- if he discovered the hidden Capsule and then ambushed her when she returned, or if he captured her on her way back to the Capsule and then she was forced to take Silverthorn back to 3000 with her (having no choice but to tell him about the Capsule, because otherwise it would have returned without her in it and she’d have been stranded!!). But we do know that Silverthorn captured Tulista just before the Capsule was ready to go back, because in series 2, when Silverthorn returned to 2500 not long after he originally left, Macro said that Silverthorn had only been gone from their hideout for an hour. So it looks as if Tulista managed to survive in 2500 quite well, and was very unlucky to meet Silverthorn right at the end of her stay.

(By the way, it was never revealed what happened to Tulista’s transducer! I’m assuming that it must have got broken at some point, maybe during a struggle with Silverthorn.)

Anyway, in series 2, the scientists operated the Time Capsule in a different way. There was no pre-set time journey duration, as the intention was for Lorien to quickly drop off Jenny and Silverthorn in their time periods and then return home. And this time, the Capsule’s energy was generated internally, from power cells, similar to when you power a laptop with batteries rather than plugging it in to an external power source.

This was how the Capsule was able to take Alana and Lorien to the destroyed version of the year 3000, where there was no Time Lab!! Had the Capsule been powered in the original way, Alana and Lorien would have been forever stranded in 2500, because history had changed and so the Temporal Generators that would have pulled the Capsule back through time (or rather, back to the future 😄) no longer existed!!

But the new method of operating the Capsule had a BIG drawback… because it meant that after too many time journeys without the power cells being re-charged, the Capsule would no longer have sufficient power to operate. And to save power, when the Capsule operated in this way, it could only move through time and not space.

As for your question about the scene where Jenny and Petey observed the Time Capsule in flight, and how it was visible in mid flight rather than suddenly exploding into view when it reached it’s destination, like it did in its other Time Journeys that we saw… well, I don’t understand how that worked and it’s much more difficult to come up with an explanation!! 😄

The only thing I can say about that time journey is that it was different from all the others we saw in that it resulted in a crash landing. In none of the other time journeys in the Capsule did anyone else end up sprawled unconscious at their destination time zone, and I guess this was due to the fact that it was also the only time journey when Silverthorn attempted to pilot the Time Capsule. 🤣

I hate to admit this because I am Silverthorn’s biggest fan, and he had such cunning and ingenuity and many other skills… but when it came to operating vehicles, he was a bit shit at it, and greatly overestimated his abilities.😁

He also believed that he could drive a 20th century van simply from having observed Eddie doing it:
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So I think during the journey to 1990 with Alana as his hostage, Silverthorn did not pilot the Capsule with the same competence and care that Tulista would have done, and the Capsule would also have been travelling with TREMENDOUS power, having been forced to take a 1010 year time journey just a few moments after returning from a 500 year one (from which it was still overheated). And that was the cause of the unusual phenomenon of the Capsule being visible mid flight, and the crash landing which resulted in Silverthorn having concussion.

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Re: The Girl from Tomorrow (TV series)

Post by Roja » 03 Dec 2024, 14:20

I have just thought of something else that I think was a plot hole though…

In Tomorrow’s End when Nik asks the Time Capsule to take him to 1990 and it asks him to specify the destination time co-ordinates, Nik says that he wants to go back to before Draco stole the nuclear weapons. The Capsule Computer replies that it doesn’t understand the term “Draco”. 😄

I thought that was odd considering that the purpose of the first time journey was to find out the cause of the Great Disaster, so you would think that the computer would have had more extensive history records from 2500 and the years leading up to it than from any other time period, yet the computer didn’t know that Draco was the manager of Globecorp Australia!! But it had records of daily newspaper pages from the 20th century including horse racing results. 🙂

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Re: The Girl from Tomorrow (TV series)

Post by Roja » 23 Dec 2024, 07:14

Nick McCallum sent me this wonderful behind the scenes photo last night!! 🤩🤩🤩

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I love how clearly you can see the level of detail of the costumes in this picture. It makes me appreciate even more the hard work and craftsmanship that went into making the show!! And I think that’s a crew member with a smoke machine in the background on the right.

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